logoalt Hacker News

dumberquestionstoday at 5:37 PM2 repliesview on HN

There are some reasons the story could be inaccurate in some ways: OAI stands to benefit if people think their models are strong, and they have a history of doing things with dubious ethics (e.g. using data for training against the terms of its creators, abandoning the non profit mission, stealing or attempting to steal Apple IP).

But there are also reasons why the story could be true: OAI are admitting that they apparently can't control their own models, Hugging Face said they used a Chinese model to protect against the attack, and an incident like this in general seems likely to happen given current frontier ability and lack of rigorous safe testing standards.

In any case, make calls to think more critically are often just disguised requests for you to replace your existing bias with someone else's.


Replies

jackb4040today at 7:16 PM

Investors have rewarded every story of "our models are too powerful to be controlled" since before ChatGPT. Let's stop pretending there is any real financial risk to OpenAI from events of this type. "Alignment research" is a sub-percentage-point fig leaf for them like the solar division at an oil company.

show 1 reply
dundarioustoday at 6:03 PM

> [still] can't control their own models

Have we not seen several examples of older such models exploiting the docker control socket, etc., to escape containers? Even the news isn't new.

I support it being repeatedly publicized, but a bit more of a straightforward description would be an improvement.

show 1 reply