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novaleaftoday at 7:39 PM2 repliesview on HN

Some irony: I subscribe to Claude and Codex (20x plans), and now Kimi.

Why Kimi? because K3 is the only frontier model I can have a serious conversation with about my product's security.

(I did apply for OpenAi's Cyber Pilot but got no response)


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torginustoday at 7:55 PM

The product strategy of 'consumer-grade' AI making deliberately insecure software, and then selling you limited access to the model that can fix it (if they think you deserve to pay them) is just diabolical.

(Grade 3 AI which can hack both previous tiers is exclusively sold to the highest bidder.)

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ozgrakkurttoday at 9:44 PM

> K3 is the only frontier model I can have a serious conversation with about my product's security.

This is wrong IMO. You should have a serious conversation about your products security with someone who is actually trained on that subject. LLMs are useless if you don't already know more about the thing than the LLM, or if you don't care too much about the outcome (internal tools etc.)

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