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discreteeventtoday at 5:11 PM5 repliesview on HN

> But the reduction began when you yourself started putting more importance on your enjoyment of the process over the value being provided to your customers.

Why would you make this comment? Is it envy? They were able to do things only some people can do. They enjoyed what they did and it provided value. Now the fun has been taken out of it and you seem to be saying that they deserve to have no fun? What should they have done? Prove theorems while whipping themselves in case they might have fun? Maybe it's a puritan thing? Customer value is the only value.


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bonoboTPtoday at 7:39 PM

No. The "only value" is the one that people decide to give you, based on their choice. This can be coordinated via taxation and redistribution, but it's still paid from someone to you. Someone has to decide that you doing this thing is something that they like so much that they pay you a token, which you can use to redeem useful work from other citizens, such as repairing you car, or remodeling your bathroom.

Many many people enjoy various things in life, such as eating nice meals (quite spiritual to do it in good mood in friends' circle), go camping, or play music. But they don't get paid to do this.

It's very simple to understand. It doesn't depend on deserve. It depends on a concrete person or group of persons having to specifically decide that you get things in return to your time (such as your washing machine repaired, or getting petrol at the gas station) for your efforts at something that they appreciate. It's not God who gives you these things. It's not the universe and it's not Mother Nature. It's concrete people. You have to think about how what you do is actually appreciated by concrete people. You have to do something that people appreciate, whether you agree with their assessment of appreciation or not, it will be that way. You can't simply expect people to give you gas at the gas station simply because you yourself appreciate your own way of spending your time.

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vsliratoday at 5:53 PM

The issue seems to be with the expectation that personal enrichment and subjective aesthetic appreciation should be socially instead privately funded

consensus1today at 7:23 PM

The AI will not stop them, or anyone else, from doing what they enjoy. It will stop them from getting paid for it. And nobody has the right to get paid for having fun. To get paid you need to deliver customer value.

turing_curioustoday at 5:46 PM

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knollimartoday at 5:20 PM

Don't complain that you lose funding if you sacrifice utility for a cirlejerk around craftsmanship.

I'm sure there's a programming equivalent. I believe theyre saying don't lose sight of the trees.

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