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kingstnaptoday at 1:09 PM3 repliesview on HN

The archive.org story was more nuanced than that. If I recall correctly the full story was that they used to lend digital versions of books they physically bought and scanned with DRM to enforce a sort of one to one at a time restriction.

But during covid archive.org decided to just remove the limit and lend unlimited copies concurrently which started the debacle with the publishers.


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cvadicttoday at 1:40 PM

> But during covid archive.org decided to just remove the limit and lend unlimited copies concurrently

IIRC, this was 100% it. Lending one digital version of one physical asset was likely already a violation copyright. Lending UNLIMITED digital versions of one physical copy was DEFINITELY a blatant violation of copyright.

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Cthulhu_today at 1:58 PM

Yeah that was it; if I got this right, US libraries got the right to lend out one digital version of a book that they had in their inventory. Archive.org combined those digital versions so that people could check out a digital book if any library in the US had it (digitally) available. But during the 'rona they removed this limit and just lent out books regardless of it being "checked out" digitally from a library.

This wasn't a very smart move of them. I get why they did it but they put themselves at a huge legal risk.

louskentoday at 4:09 PM

If i recall correctly, they had permission from physical libraries to use their copies as well, so it wasn't just a single copy but many copies, just one of them was converted into digital. Still wasn't enough apparently...