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retiredtoday at 5:51 PM2 repliesview on HN

Ideal was a result of free market banking though.

> The system was conceived by the Dutch banks ABN Amro, ING Bank, Postbank N.V. and Rabobank, to develop a single system for online payments that could be used by all banks.

Currently owned by EPI:

> The European Payments Initiative (EPI) is a unified digital payment service launched in 2020 and backed by sixteen founding European banks and payment service providers.


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microtonaltoday at 6:46 PM

Before iDEAL we had a similar mess with different banks and even a telco pushing their own payment system. It was basically the Dutch webshop foundation (thuiswinkel.org, basically the webshop lobby) that said: f*ck it banks, clean up your mess! And so it happened.

They even tried to extend it to other European countries in 2011: https://www.bnnvara.nl/kassa/artikelen/ideal-in-de-ban-van-m...

Muromectoday at 6:56 PM

Ideal is great. The missing part of the free market is that the other part of it (consumers) expecting you to not be an asshole.