alt Hacker News > The NSA and the CIA with the same models, on the other hand, would use them exclusively for the good of the common man.
the real argument is that CCP will leverage AI against US interests, which is obvious. it's weird how so many people pretend that they are citizens of the world and above it all.
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> has anyone ever made this absurd argument?
Yes, anthropic just put forward this argument. It's the whole point of the article.
I agree, it's absurd.
The fact that much of the world is as unconcerned with the interests of the US as with those of China, if not less so, should give pause to Americans.
As a citizen of neither country, Chinese open models are in my interest more than US closed models. My only concerns is that if/when Chinese AI becomes more powerful, they too will have little incentive to make their best models open weights.
The argument itself is not necessary. But it's American exceptionalism which is the same thing Dario has.
Right, I wonder if anyone who heard: “the Democratic Party is America's "greatest enemy,"” believes they are represented by US Interests? Withholding disaster aid to your perceived opposition. What are those interests again? What are the shared values again? Cruelty and corruption? Sounds unifying.
-> the real argument is that CIA will leverage AI against China interests, which is obvious. it's weird how so many people pretend that they are citizens of the world and above it all.
Works for both ways, which is fair?
US citizens have a much greater threat from their own government than a government an ocean away.
See, the Snowden Leaks.
>it's weird how so many people pretend that they are citizens of the world
97% of the world aren't US citizens and if you've taken a look at pew research surveys (or travelled to the so-called global south) you're going to be in for a bit of a shock (https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2026/07/15/people-in-many...)
The competition and sheer output of China has driven prosperity, it's the largest trading partner of 150 countries, the US of 50. People don't need to be citizens of the world, they just need to rationally look at their own interests. China is driving down prices of technologies making them available in countries that never could afford first world prices, the US is driving the them into an energy crisis and bankruptcy.
>the real argument is that CCP will leverage AI against US interests
Good. US Interests don't align with humanity.
Dario Amodei Literally makes this exact argument in the OP.
>the real argument is that CCP will leverage AI against US interests
many people believe that the US will leverage AI against US citizen's interests.