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gck1today at 12:08 AM0 repliesview on HN

It took me a few hours to find some very questionable communities, which in turn gave me access to:

- Ways to obtain cheap guarded-AI tokens that are not linked back to me and with no danger of getting my legitimate accounts banned

- Ways to get rid of guardrails and have models work on things they wouldn't otherwise work on.

The attackers were already in these communities long before I knew they existed, they already had the advantage. Ones with enough reputation probably have access to even more information and tools than I do.

It is true that these communities exist because guardrails were put in place, so yes, it is slowing them down too - as in they can't just put in their CC on claude.com and hack a hospital. But attackers are much better at finding these communities and utilizing resources available there than defenders.

Personally, I don't have any ethical concerns of utilizing these resources when I put them to actual defense, but I know many people that would, leaving them at a disadvantage.

My point is that there's only one guardrail that will effectively contain the threat the models pose, and it's in direct conflict of the big 2's goals - pull the models from worldwide access completely. Strict KYC and all. And it would only last for so long anyway.