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daishi55last Tuesday at 1:19 PM9 repliesview on HN

They are not trolling. They are stating the simple, undeniable fact that there is more than enough to go around and if we had a more equitable distribution of resources, we could take care of everyone with disabilities 10x over with plenty to spare.


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chung8123last Tuesday at 9:25 PM

I don't think people realize how much evening out society will impact them. This is a very US (and probably EU) way of thinking. Everyone thinks they are middle class but when it comes down to it there are far more people in poverty and that evening things out will bring down the quality of life for the people advocating for evening out things.

nate_meurerlast Tuesday at 11:13 PM

If that's true, it's odd that so many social welfare programs across the western world are consuming an ever-growing share of GDP, incurring massive debt, and grinding toward insolvency and collapse. Exactly how much more of our money and labor do you want to take from us in order to continue this madness?

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WarmWashlast Tuesday at 8:34 PM

The problem is that when you get more for less, it kills the incentive to do more. This is a really glaring problem, and people go to really great lengths to either sweep it under the rug or hand wave it away.

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laughing_manyesterday at 12:38 AM

The only reason there's more than enough to go around is people work for the betterment of their own life. If you disconnect the link between work and material comfort that simple, undeniable fact will no longer be fact.

germandiagoyesterday at 1:38 AM

Yes, remove the human incentive to produce, which is that the rest can consume in a way that is profitable enough for the producer and you will see the wxcess disappear in front of your eyes for killing the incentive to produce.

Infinitely redistributing does not yield products for all, but scarcity for all.

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hackeraccountyesterday at 1:15 PM

You work and toil and earn bread, and I'll eat it.

xedraclast Tuesday at 10:12 PM

People say this, but I'm not sure I understand how it could be true. For example, taxing billionaires is often cited as the solution to this problem. But if we took Elon Musk's $730 billion fortune and divided it evenly among the US population, people would receive a one-time payment of about $2000, and then that fortune would be gone, and any opportunities or advancements it was creating. So I'm genuinely curious where you see this incredible excess coming from.

techteach00last Tuesday at 9:28 PM

I'm so sick and tired of hearing about this mythical "excess". I can't afford housing. Millions like me can't. There is no excess. Unless it's being hoarded by the capital class.

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AlexandrBlast Tuesday at 2:09 PM

> we could take care of everyone with disabilities 10x over with plenty to spare.

Yes, like the 40%[1] of Stanford undergrads who have disabilities. The greatest long term impediment to what you're suggesting is folks who don't need the help taking advantage of the resource distribution. It both massively increases the costs and sours those who have to pay into the system on the whole thing leading to a backlash.

If we could just solve this quirk of human nature, we'd be all set.

[1] https://fortune.com/article/rise-in-elite-students-seeking-a...

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