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dgellowyesterday at 7:34 PM2 repliesview on HN

You can say that for any argument regarding consciousness, because we don’t have an actual, all encompassing definition of what consciousness is. In general I don’t think comparison with humans makes much sense, we should be able to discuss LLMs without always falling back to “but what about humans” (sorry for the caricature)


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ameliaquiningyesterday at 7:39 PM

Shouldn't that imply that agnosticism is the proper view, rather than asserting that something is impossible on a next-token-predictor architecture?

(Note: I don't actually think the consciousness question is the most important one in the near term. Where I think this line of reasoning gets really dangerous is when people use it to assert that LLMs can't or won't engage in certain behaviors no matter much they advance; this doesn't have anything to do with consciousness.)

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cyanydeezyesterday at 8:28 PM

I think it's important to understand the humans _can_ do what LLMs do: predict next tokens from prior ones.

But LLMs are only operating on text and humans are only operating on <waves hands>