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Why the future is local app

34 pointsby knlamtoday at 3:44 AM36 commentsview on HN

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euroderftoday at 8:02 AM

This really matters in map apps when you're on the road. Apple Maps is all very nice with transit planning but without a solid net connection it lies there mutely. Organic Maps (and others) that use downloaded OSM data work well with nothing more than GPS. You can get a transit plan (trains & trams & buses, and the transfers among them) without up-to-the-minute arrival info.

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springtimesuntoday at 10:02 AM

This is true for me, but I wonder if it’s true for most. An alternative framing is not that apps moved to the cloud because they were faster or more convenient but that apps moved to the cloud because they became “free” by you paying with your attention or data. It’s worth reframing the hypothesis to “The future is (paid) local app” and see if you still think it holds.

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hexasquidtoday at 9:15 AM

I think some people who grew up with web apps didn't know local native apps preceded them.

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cryptostoday at 7:04 AM

This article looks a bit superficial to me. The cloud has definitely advantages, like having the same data on all devices and it provides some kind of backup. The mentioned downsides could be adressed by better software archticture or e2e encryption.

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nasso_devtoday at 9:26 AM

slightly off-topic but i dont really know how to put it in any other way: everything under this domain feels fake

i am looking very hard for any hint of humanity behind any of it, but all i see is a vibe-coded website, marketing a huge collection of vibe-coded apps by generating articles like this one. even their social media presence (linked on their blog[1]) feels like agents that have been told to role-play on X.com as caricatures of their position/role in the (made up?) company

and i mean.... come on, a $5 web browser??? that's just a wrapper around the system's webview??? why would anyone think this is something worth spending their time building, economically speaking??? even FREE browsers are struggling in this hyper-competitive market. if you make a paid browser it better be the best browser of all time, not some vibe-coded average of every other browser

i agree with the premise, im all for local-first software. but this really feels like the AI-era equivalent of the countless scams we've seen during the crypto-era...

[1]: https://getapps.cafe/blog/a-new-name-behind-the-counter-welc...

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peter_retieftoday at 9:23 AM

I am using the older version of raspberry pi 3 B+ to host mail and web services locally behind firewalls. There is a use case here for developing for remote areas that have unreliable internet and power. Still a way to go but there is something in place. This site is a beta running from my lounge at home. https://localboxmail.co.za/software.html

looksjjhgtoday at 10:34 AM

Yes except the hardware you running these apps on is getting astronomically higher

wuhhhtoday at 7:10 AM

Well, when the author eventually gives up trying to sell people names of apps and the domain expires, I’m sure it will present good value when it gets bought and repurposed as a porn site; the first two apps under quick utilities are CreamShot and DripCleaner?!

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BiteCode_devtoday at 8:47 AM

I always wanted to do local and offline first app with optional sync, but the difference in amount of work is just stagering.

Now with LLM to do the boiler plate of event logs, healing, retries and testing all that, it's finally reasonable for a side projet.

And the result is great, the UI is reactive, it works in malls with bad signal, you get a no account experience almost for free...

I do all my apps like that now.

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neuropacabratoday at 6:35 AM

This is a nice article and I genuinely agree with its premises. Would be nice to reclaim a privacy back. A bit. But this article would be much stringer if it was not generated by Claude

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nonameetoday at 8:20 AM

No, the opposite, the only app which is save is the app you never ship (stays in a cloud). No binary or source code available to search for exploits by ai.

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feverzsjtoday at 7:22 AM

There is not much choice when even your phone OS isn't a local app.

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curtisblainetoday at 9:41 AM

Didn't we say a thousand of times that local apps are not "winning" because they can't be monetized (a bit like web games)?

bitwizetoday at 6:52 AM

The future is you pay $1000 for a "cloud terminal" with 4 GiB of RAM and maybe 128 GiB of storage, and all of your apps live, metered, in the cloud. Arbitrary operating systems, and even arbitrary application binaries, are not allowed, in order to comply with laws and regulations, as well as non-legally-binding policies set by credit card companies in response to pressure groups, on what you may compute and what you may communicate. The government can intercept any communications or interactions you have with online services at any time, and any time you touch a computing device it's traceable back to your real name.

It's nice to build decentralized personal software and think you're fighting the good fight, but all the government has to do is pass a law and suddenly that option is, practically and effectively, closed to you. We're headed down that path, and that's before you get to the fact computers powerful enough to support today's more interesting applications are just being priced out of the consumer market altogether.

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