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truncatetoday at 8:47 AM4 repliesview on HN

Not that I don't believe its possible to fix a lot of bugs, I also wonder what the actual dynamic was. Were the people in team working much more than usual as well? Given its Google, I wouldn't be surprised if there was an "internal push" to fix more bugs over next X sprints so that they can publish this blog and some manager can show impact and AI adaption to his superior.


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NitpickLawyertoday at 9:05 AM

Google's entire modus operandi has been "automate everything" for decades. They've been doing this with fuzzers, with project zero and so on. Adding LLMs on top is a very obvious next step. And LLMs improving and finding more bugs also follows. Then improve the harness and the dev tools, to better use the LLMs. And then everything together end-to-end to find-triage-fix-confirm. Your LLMs are as good as the loop they run in, and the loop is as good as the verifier. Seems a reasonable enough dynamic without (or despite, depends how cynical you wanna be) the need for managers to show number goes up on some chart.

flohofwoetoday at 9:32 AM

I would guess they have been confronted with an initial flood of newly discovered bugs whenever they added a new analysis tool or approach (e.g. automated static analysis, fuzzing, ...). Once working through that initial flurry of newly discovered bugs one would assume that the frequency goes down again.

bradortoday at 8:53 AM

More likely just getting ahead of the AI attacks before they hit. The threat risk increase caused by AI has gone off the chart.

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nevi-metoday at 8:57 AM

1. Our backlog of bugs gets processed quicker because instead of staring at the code for 10 minutes fiuring out what's happening, there's a tool that can reason about it quicker.

2. Code reviews and security reviews happen quicker and produce more findings.

I would think that (m)any team(s) using AI might also be seeing a higher rate of finding and fixing issues.

Even the Linux Kernel (I'd say Windows and Apple too) are seeing the same phenomenon.