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dannywtoday at 10:20 AM1 replyview on HN

Qwen/Alibaba have stopped doing open weights releases for a while. No grudge or anything, I'm certainly not going to look at a gift horse in the mouth, but both DeepSeek and Moonshot have been very consistent with open weights as well as sharing actually detailed research.

In terms of open research, China has absolutely overtaken the US.


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anon373839today at 10:32 AM

Qwen has a pinned tweet stating that 3.8 will be released as open weights soon. I guess it remains to be seen, though, if they’ll do the smaller model sizes or only the big 2.4T one.

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