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inigyoutoday at 11:49 AM3 repliesview on HN

I agree, it's very convenient to have a phone full of corporate malware. But I thought the point of GrapheneOS was to escape that. My corporate malware only runs on my secure card processor which sits in a pocket glued to my phone.


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microtonaltoday at 12:40 PM

But I thought the point of GrapheneOS was to escape that.

I think the point of GrapheneOS is being as secure as possible first and within those parameters give people the choice how much of Google they want. They have implemented sandboxed Google Play Services for a reason. Many people need Play Services for practical reasons (e.g. because they need to run apps that require it), so let's then run it in the most secure/private way possible - make it a sandboxed app, allowing users to decide whether to install it or not and if they choose to, that they can assign/revoke permissions like any other Android app.

miroljubtoday at 12:19 PM

The very moment it becomes possible to create a Google Pay alternative, there will be at least a dozen choices, some of them fully open source and privacy conserving.

The only reason why we don’t have them is Google / Apple duopoly.

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stavrostoday at 12:09 PM

You're begging the question. The entire premise of this thread is "we should be able to pay without infesting our phone with corporate malware".

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