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firasdtoday at 12:35 AM3 repliesview on HN

Doesn’t the concept of a subconscious, or inner voice, invalidate any tight analogies to Turing Machines? What logical process is putting the Fur Elise into my head (earworms etc)

I think this article is right that definitions really matter here cause one could argue “CTM is trivial, because we can describe almost any physical system as executing computations.” So we have a dual problem here—not just the difficult discussion of ‘what’s going on in minds’, but also ‘what is computation’.


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cat-whisperertoday at 12:39 AM

I would agree, but I recently read https://transformer-circuits.pub/2026/workspace/index.html which is quite interesting in it's own right.

What are your thoughts on this?

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BobbyTables2today at 12:39 AM

Wonder if the subconscious could simply be another LLM with a higher temperature setting…

Have long thought that creativity is little more than a finely tuned filter driven by noise…

TheOtherHobbestoday at 12:48 AM

Infuriatingly, computation is subjective. The experience of the inputs, the results, and the processes depends on qualia. So does logic itself.

Automating the processes doesn't change that. There's a very large number of possible processes and operations, but only a small number are perceived as valuable.