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lucideertoday at 11:56 AM12 repliesview on HN

I'm very curious what organisations would have such a policy. I can't imagine it being viable for any size of org without significant self-deception (or banning the use of all open source at which point CVEs are moot anyway).


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traceroute66today at 12:29 PM

> I'm very curious what organisations would have such a policy.

I would humbly suggest any org of any size that has insurance cover that covers anything tech related (e.g. data loss/recovery, cyber etc.) has a very good look at the small print.

Over the last few years insurers have aggressively been adding "no vulnerability patch, no claim" exclusion clauses.

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clbrmbrtoday at 12:00 PM

Many orgs (esp w ISO27000) have a vulnerability management policy that involves patching at least critical CVEs within a short timeline. Tools like trivvy make it possible to do the scans…

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vrightertoday at 12:59 PM

I have been given a list by security. "We had an automated tool scan that machine. It reported these. Fix anything medium severity and above.

Never mind that some of them involved vulnerabilities in some part of the bluetooth stack (servers in our datacenter don't even have bluetooth). But they just didn't care

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anygivnthursdaytoday at 12:09 PM

If I remember correctly, we had to patch or provide justification for CVEs flagged by tools like AWS Inspector for SOC2 as well.

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regularfrytoday at 1:17 PM

Any org large enough to have separated the people responsible for the security exposure of the organisation from the developers with familiarity of what's deployed is likely to have done exactly this.

The thing you have to remember is that CVEs can be a) scanned for without exerting mental effort, and b) counted.

michaelttoday at 12:59 PM

SOC2 CC7.1 [1] requires a vulnerability scanner, findings tracked with tickets, assigned severities according to a documented risk-based system, severity-based SLAs for remediation, and that the SLAs mostly be complied with or have tracked exceptions.

However it doesn't mandate any particular SLA, or the details of how risks are to be evaluated.

Organisations get to write their own policy, and they don't need to commit to patching every CVE within 24 hours or anything like that.

[1] https://www.compliancebase.org/controls/soc-2/cc7-1

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jmulltoday at 1:56 PM

It's quite common in enterprisey environments.

For one thing, bigcorps in regulated areas like it a lot. They push hard to get it required by the regulations (in practice if not directly). Although it's quite inefficient, it becomes a regulatory moat. A cost they can bear that potential upstart competitors cannot.

jeltztoday at 12:25 PM

Many large organizations like banks have requirements like this and they solve it through a mix of automatic scanners, e.g. Trivvy, and self-deception as not all systems are actually scanned in any sufficiently large org.

swiftcodertoday at 1:49 PM

> I'm very curious what organisations would have such a policy

Do you provide SOC2, HIPAA, GDPR, or similar certifications to your b2b customers? Then your tech stack undergoes an annual audit, and in your audit you will need to provide a paper trail for every single vulnerability in your stack.

In practice, this means that your audit compliance software (something like Vanta.com) is going to be setup to mandate every CVE in the whole stack is patched within SLA.

SirFattytoday at 11:57 AM

ITAR

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