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gortoktoday at 3:14 PM2 repliesview on HN

Turing-completeness is a necessary pre-requisite for being able to fulfill the requirements of a Turing machine, nothing more. In the same way that cell division is a necessary condition for life, but cell division does not mean a given life form itself is sentient.

Intelligent life-forms can generate probabilistic outputs based on inputs, but being able to generate probabilistic outputs based on inputs is not what makes us intelligent.


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red75primetoday at 3:34 PM

OK. A more pointed question. What do you know about intelligence that allows you to exclude LLMs with CoT from the category of intelligent systems with certainty?

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estearumtoday at 3:31 PM

> but being able to generate probabilistic outputs based on inputs is not what makes us intelligent.

???

Of course it is. The brain is mechanically not capable of doing anything other than that.

Do you believe the brain is something other than a bundle of probabilistic physical interactions? Or are brains not the source of what we call intelligence?

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