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coffinbirthlast Monday at 9:09 PM4 repliesview on HN

I always find it unbelievable how people do not know or just forget about what happened in the east 85 years ago. Really sad. This is one of the primary reasons why people in the west don't understand why Russia cannot accept Ukraine in NATO. It was NATO that expanded to the east, contrary to the agreements after the fall of the Soviet Union. Russia said for decades that Ukraine in NATO is unacceptable.


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anon48293last Monday at 9:22 PM

Ukraine sought NATO membership AFTER Russia attacked in 2014, not before.

Since you’re such a history buff, what did Russia promise when Ukraine got rid of their nukes?

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SukadarBukadarlast Monday at 9:32 PM

Let me tell you what's actually "really sad": Bucha as a response to sovereign country's attempt to join NATO. Having a hostile country as a neighbour isn't an excuse for starting a war with it.

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matkonieczlast Monday at 9:25 PM

> what happened in the east 85 years ago

Russia got attacked by their ally, Nazi Germany. After 87 years ago in 1939 they invaded together Poland.

> Really sad.

Yeah, Russia going on to win WW II was quite sad. Admittedly better than Nazis winning but pity they have not both lost.

> contrary to the agreements after the fall of the Soviet Union

which supposed agreements? Were they any more binding than Budapest Memorandum?

> Russia said for decades that Ukraine in NATO is unacceptable.

And Russia in Ukraine is unacceptable for us.

antonvslast Monday at 9:51 PM

> Russia said for decades that Ukraine in NATO is unacceptable.

Russia, as a hostile nation not interested in participating in global peace, doesn’t get to decide such things.