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yawaramintoday at 8:38 PM1 replyview on HN

> Fiddling with out-of-band swaps to solve this feels error prone and overly hard to maintain.

This is almost always because of using a string-based templating system. If you use a language-embedded HTML generation library, it represents HTML fragments as first-class values in your language, and you can compose them together in flexible ways. This makes out-of-band swaps very simple.


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dhamiditoday at 8:52 PM

HTMX is great, Hypermedia and HATEOAS are great, HTML-string-templates are not great.

For some reason they are still popular.

A fun experiment is to use a JS runtime with React but render the component tree on the server onto a Writeable stream.

Very easy to understand, no useEffect footguns, great composability.