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moshunyesterday at 9:45 PM9 repliesview on HN

Considering the rate of model development and rail hopping, seems like baking models into silicon is speed-running obsolescence.


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breuleuxyesterday at 10:19 PM

If you’re only running models for frontier capabilities, yeah. For tasks where current models are smart enough, running them 100x faster is the most impactful improvement you can make. Consider all the things you could use a model for, but don’t, because the latency is just a bit too high.

zxspectrum1982yesterday at 10:45 PM

I'd gladly pay for a Claude Opus 4.6 Thinking High in silicon and use it for 1-2 years. It's good enough for many coding tasks.

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mdp2021yesterday at 10:05 PM

Compute the cost of producing n of them devices, imagine a fair price based on that, and see if that local, blazing fast card* can be an asset that could be replaced periodically.

*(It's local: private files managing firm oriented. It's blazing fast: it can be placed into recursive, intensive local workflows.)

ray_vyesterday at 9:55 PM

I could see this making sense when model development start to settle down ... it's going to settle down, right? ...

topspinyesterday at 10:18 PM

"seems like baking models into silicon is speed-running obsolescence"

Now maybe. When models are flying passenger aircraft, other prerogatives will assert themselves. When a 50TB ROM means you can impulse purchase a ChatGPT 6.3 xhigh that runs on batteries, yet more use cases will be apparent.

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alightsoulyesterday at 10:10 PM

Which is exactly what companies and shareholders want to increase sales.

ameliusyesterday at 9:52 PM

Not sure. You can fix the transistors but leave the connections between them open for flexibility, so you only need to change the manufacturing process for the upper masks for every new model.

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flyinglizardyesterday at 10:07 PM

Look at it the other way: compared to the cost of training a model, the cost of making a custom ASIC is trivial.

try-workingyesterday at 10:45 PM

obsolescence is the whole point. apple gets to sell a new phone very 6-12 months because of it.

i have written about this:

"For device makers

Packaging models with laptops and smartphones will let application access near free, low latency inference and potentially offer users a better experience with the option of preserving data on-device. This is viable under the condition that tasks that do require larger expert models that run in the cloud can be routed to external models. A side-effect of local models and what will let Apple cut upgrade cycles from ~4 years (?) down to 12-18 months is specialized hardware to run them. For almost a decade, smartphones have been trying to compete on better cameras. This coming decade will see them selling better GPUs, NPUs, ASICs and whatever other things they'll be calling the inference chips, to drive re-purchase. Every six months will see a better model on new hardware, which will enable better performance in certain applications."

https://try.works/role-model-the-case-for-a-model-routing-pr...

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