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anthonypasqyesterday at 9:56 PM6 repliesview on HN

Personally I think Apple should have acquired them. if you could burn a gemma4 class model into an iphone and actually get extremely low latency and low battery usage it would feel like the future IMO. even if it means you wont get frontier intelligence, there might actually be incentive to buy a new mobile device every year again.


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Melatonicyesterday at 10:34 PM

The Taalas chips are not physically small. And part of their secret (if you look at the design) is just locating a bunch of memory soldered on the edges ( I belive higher amounts of SRAM ? )

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adgjlsfhk1yesterday at 10:12 PM

I don't think this works out from a cost/silicon perspective. Small models already run pretty well in software (since the weights fit in cache) and big models require silicon area proportional to the size of weights. On a mobile device putting a chip like this is competing directly in BOM and power against a whole lot more l3 cache, and the l3 cache makes everything faster

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bsaulyesterday at 9:59 PM

That's actually a really good point... There's currently zero incentive to buying more hardware, and that's one very good reason do have a new one.

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makeitdoubleyesterday at 11:29 PM

Slightly besides your point, but it's interesting how many here naturally ponder about how the current winner could or "should" keep winning, instead of how another company could become a competitor by doing the more clever thing the incumbent isn't thinking about.

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superb_devyesterday at 10:07 PM

From what I remember, these chips are not mobile size yet

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whatsThisBtn4yesterday at 10:34 PM

Apple is somewhere between fashion company and second rate tech company.

They could have 9 year old AI and still post profits.

Not sure if it's my pixel or android, but I made a randos jaw drop with what the crappy AI on android can do.

When are we getting android OpenClaw?