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saagarjhatoday at 10:56 AM16 repliesview on HN

> Interior Secretary Doug Burgum said in a statement posted on X that Americans deserve an energy system built on common sense and not one dependent on "costly subsidies".

I agree. This is why we are building offshore wind and not subsidizing fossil fuels, right?


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epihelixtoday at 2:53 PM

I know it's not what you wanted to start here with this comment. But the silly, tangential, petty bickering in this thread goes a very long way to explain our failure to act to stop the catastrophe we've known was coming since the 80s.

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Kim_Bruningtoday at 12:15 PM

> not one dependent on "costly subsidies".

While paying out 1.2 billion dollars.

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jeltztoday at 11:13 AM

All kinds of power generation are typically heavily subdized in some way. I do not think this "common sense" strategy exists.

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ghtbircshotbetoday at 11:56 AM

And don't forget ethanol, probably the least efficient form of energy ever discovered

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1dontknow_today at 1:48 PM

Please do not forget the /s since there are young people here or those people who arent native English speakers and they might not catch the sarcasm given its an important topic, esp for the wellbeing of our future generations.

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rayinertoday at 11:20 AM

It's even dumber than that. Someone built a wind farm near Trump's golf course in Scotland and now he hates wind farms: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c15l3knp4xyo. He thinks they're ugly and noisy.

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SlightlyLeftPadtoday at 1:08 PM

> they say the noise causes cancer [1]

I mean it’s common sense

[1]: https://www.c-span.org/clip/white-house-event/user-clip-trum...

montaggtoday at 1:18 PM

Lying bullshitters all.

These people are not interested in coherent policy. They say whatever they want to justify it, we know it, and they know we know it. It’s an intentional expression of domination.

Just another thing to prosecute and rebuild.

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tialaramextoday at 12:53 PM

To be fair offshore wind is relatively expensive. A brand new wind farm is probably cheaper than burning methane because Trump started another pointless war, but it's closer than for like Solar PV.

Of course "common sense" ought to probably include "Not cooking ourselves".

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louiereedersontoday at 11:19 AM

While they pay a subsidy: > RWE said that it will now reinvest the sum

mandeepjtoday at 2:36 PM

> common sense and not one dependent on "costly subsidies".

They say one thing and do another!

Edit: I meant to say wrapping their stupid acts under the disguise of 'common sense' is a stupid act in itself.

renegade-ottertoday at 2:41 PM

Okay then - let's stop subsidizing gasoline, yeah?

shevy-javatoday at 11:21 AM

It's even more hilarious than that because all nuclear energy is heavily subsidized by taxpayers already. People such as Doug just lie strategically. No surprise in that current government of liars.

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pxmpxmtoday at 2:36 PM

It’s disappointing to see Redditesque room temp iq discourse in the comments.

Has anyone mentioned the expected cost per Mwh of this project to get a sense whether this made economic sense, or are we talking Biden admin adjacent vanity political project paid by rate payers?

Just for reference, the hopefully-cancelled Empire wind near me had a 20yr PPA of $155mwh, which makes Vogtle (-~$170mwh) look like a steal.

More numbers and less foaming at the mouth, please.

shin_laotoday at 1:52 PM

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Marciplantoday at 12:13 PM

Inferior Secretary