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RobinLtoday at 8:35 PM1 replyview on HN

Having recently read Wilson's translation, I was immediately put off at the introduction and leapt to the conclusion it was bad. It just doesn't sound anywhere near as good to my ear.

However, there may be more to it than I thought. No admittedly the following is ChatGPT's opinion, but I think it's valid and made me think again:

> The second is the better translation as English poetry; the first (Claude's) is the better translation if you want to see the Greek more directly.

> If I were studying Homer, I'd strongly prefer the first. It continually reminds you that you're reading an ancient poem whose concepts don't map neatly onto modern English.


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ang_ciretoday at 9:03 PM

Translation is an art form that is rapidly becoming lost, not because AI is doing it, but because there are too many translators who have apparently been trained (or likely, were never trained in it as a formal study at all) that it should be written in a way that emphasizes the translation as a standalone work more than anything else.

A good translation should attempt to communicate what the author meant, as closely as possible, even if there is no equivalent in the target language.

A good translation should be beautiful all on its own.

It's the balance of the 2 that makes a translation successful.

If you erase the author's true meaning just because you don't want to slow the reader down in having to take a moment to read an explanatory footnote if they're confused, you have failed to translate it, and have likely editorialized it.

Why do many English-speaking people know 'wabisabi' as a concept? Because someone bothered to explain it to them, and they bothered to listen. That act enriches the reader.

And don't even get me started on "localization".