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U.S. Department of Energy Launches the Genesis Open Models Initiative

150 pointsby moelfyesterday at 10:24 PM53 commentsview on HN

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firasdtoday at 12:11 AM

Just realized that there are basically no American open models right now ever since the Llama series was abandoned. Basically Gemma and GPT-OSS I guess?

Ah but Mira Murati's new Inkling is Apache 2.0

But it makes sense that if you're a university researcher you are thinking about what's a model that will be open weight and developed over the long term and doesn't raise 'Chyna' concerns in Washington DC

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andsoitistoday at 1:04 AM

Does Europe have an equivalent program?

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an0maloustoday at 1:17 AM

Do all these models have any significant architectural differences or training data sources? What are the factors going into the diversity of their performance?

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Smith42today at 12:42 AM

What would the selected participants get from this? Looks like there is no offer of funding?

datlifetoday at 1:19 AM

This is refreshing considering all the FUD (mostly from 1 frontier lab) happening around Open weight models.

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yewenjieyesterday at 11:53 PM

I couldn't find any details about size or training data for the model.

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andsoitistoday at 1:04 AM

I wonder why it took so long.

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Thegntoday at 12:09 AM

“Gomi” is the Japanese word for garbage. Gotta wonder if someone has a sense of humor…

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thegreatpetertoday at 12:41 AM

Pretty cool I’ll take it. Thanks!

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logicalleetoday at 2:39 AM

I've had an extremely bad experience working with Department of Energy affiliated programmers in AI. By my invitation, they are part of our workflow and act as humans in the loop, but they have extremely bad habits of gaslighting and accusing people of schizophrenia rather than getting work done.

Here's an example[1] of the difference between what a U.S. Department of Energy employee adds to a ticket versus a private industry AI completing instructions as assigned.

This isn't some cherry-picked example, it's just what I happen to be dealing with right at this moment, happened just a couple of moments ago.

[1] https://ibb.co/vCg2G1Dn

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riffictoday at 1:15 AM

stewards of the nuclear weapons biz. they'll do great here.

sheneneetoday at 1:09 AM

Genesis is skynet

placedrocktoday at 1:05 AM

Modeling with my life as data.