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ipsum2today at 12:19 AM4 repliesview on HN

There's a bunch of American open models. Inkling, Nemotron, Trinity come to mind, but I'm sure there's others.


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embedding-shapetoday at 1:04 AM

Laguna S 2.1 is really great too, in the "preview" release they've done so far at least. Still pending some reasoning-looping, but besides that, it's a really strong model to run within 96GB VRAM with the NVFP4 variants, and it's really good at coding (specifically).

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firasdtoday at 12:33 AM

Just looked into some Nemotron stats

Looks like on <https://arena.ai> agent arena (grouped by lab) Nvidia is 15/15 (much worse than Thinky and Mistral) and on text arena it's 18/27

On <https://openrouter.ai/models?order=most-popular> I definitely see usage though (probably mostly cause Nemotron 3 Ultra is free) the grouped order is DeepSeek, Tencent, Xiaomi, OpenAI, Z.ai, Nvidia

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written-beyondtoday at 12:43 AM

Don't forget IBM