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SQRL wan't wrong, it was early

25 pointsby simonjgreenlast Saturday at 12:24 PM4 commentsview on HN

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paulryanrogerstoday at 2:46 AM

SQRL has the same weakness as passkeys: secrets on device are too easily lost, gatekeepers too greedy to solve that without taking away user sovereignty, and people don't understand it.

IMO both solutions are a lost cause. Hopefully I'm just cynical and something can be worked out.

breputtoday at 2:49 AM

It was too early, but also lingered in development for far too long. It also never had the proper server-side implementations, so it could feel like a solution in search of a problem.

That said, the design is far more advanced than the rolling disaster which is Passkey and it is much better suited for small Yubikey-type devices, where you could easily have unlimited site support. It also had intrinsic portability and advanced real-world security considerations, such as an attestation that instructed a server to disable weaker authentication methods, such as email or SMS (which is also a customer support disaster, but still...).

Ultimately, SQRL is an object lesson that the best technical design doesn't always win - it needs the right timing and robust community/corporate support.

Edit: Also, the (client) reference implementation was written in x86 assembly language for Windows. So I'd say the timing, support, and portability are all reasons for the lack of adoption.

kj4ipstoday at 2:00 AM

Discord and Steam have a user login flow that is very similar to what SQRL was aiming for, including a QR code alongside the username/password fields. While it's a closed implementation of a different system, I think of SQRL every time I use it.

I might be biased, I used the PPP Pam module on linux for years, until I moved to TOTP, and then eventually to pubkey-only.

DANmodetoday at 2:19 AM

eh. it’s cool,

but compared to FIDO which existed when it was made, it’s pretty obviously “wrong”.