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maxignoltoday at 11:12 AM2 repliesview on HN

Optimizing speed is really the way to go. Yet 24GB is not what everyone can afford. Maybe we could take some of those 56tk/s and transfer into some free RAM space using MoE loading ? I'd be glad with a less than 10GB and more than 6tk/s model.


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lisplisttoday at 11:21 AM

Unfortunately this is just the entry price for LLMs. With the exception of the Qwen 27B models, I personally haven’t found a ton of use cases for models less than 200B. With the right setup, fine tuning, etc, you can make small models do cool things, but hard to please everyone given the insane hardware costs at the moment and the comparably cheap API costs.

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Manfrednotfunnytoday at 11:21 AM

I don't thinnk just MoE will solve it. If you hit constantly different expert layers, you can't outsource layers efficently and have to swap it in.

MoE will be faster because it will read less memory for sure, you still have to have it though.