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zoobabtoday at 11:13 AM3 repliesview on HN

"With dirt cheap models like deepseek-v4-flash that will run "forever" on $10, the answer for me is clearly: no."

When it's free, you are the product.


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IMTDbtoday at 11:22 AM

Deepseek flash is open weight, this means we can download and run that model without any connection to deepseek, no data/tokens/usage data ever reaches them. They cannot make us their product.

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prplxd_nihilisttoday at 11:23 AM

I see many people saying deepseek and other chinese providers have always been profitable. Also they show their training costs publicly. Can't say for sure since I have not used it personally, but I think they'll for sure outlive the western SOTAs.

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amrit3128today at 12:16 PM

Ah yes, I'm sure Trovalds and Stallman are harvesting my data through free software, aren't they? This argument is used by boomers who were fed cold war era propoganda that surely everybody is selfish, and you're always at fault.

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