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otterleytoday at 1:18 AM2 repliesview on HN

Not at all! I think these laws are dumb and I don't want my state to pass one.

But when I play, I play to win. Openly thumbing one's nose at the courts and the state is rarely a winning strategy. The way to win is through the democratic process: persuading elected officials to take your side. That, in turn, requires persuading the public to take your side.


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iamnotheretoday at 1:33 AM

Ok, fine, but what you fail to recognize that taking a loud public stance against tyranny provides cover for people who are too scared to stand up for their beliefs.

Successful civil rights activism took place in an environment where people were being arrested, beaten, and even killed for standing up for what is right. You could even argue that this created fertile ground for the success of the movement. Failures of justice create hardened activists and support networks, and eventually public support.

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DennisPtoday at 2:49 AM

On the contrary, civil disobedience involves openly thumbing your nose at the state, and it has a long history of successes.

Going to the courts instead of the legislature is another strategy that often wins. This is how Bernstein ended export restrictions on cryptography, by suing the government on constitutional grounds rather than trying to persuade legislators.

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