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wpietritoday at 2:46 PM1 replyview on HN

We're not talking about fraud, we're talking about telemarketing.

The case you describe is correct for fraud, but doesn't need any new law making "void and nulls contracts made by phone". That being epolanski's proposed fix for telemarketing.


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vntoktoday at 2:54 PM

Well you were the one talking about "If I get a card number, type it into my POS system, collect money".

A PCI DSS violation is indistinguisable from fraud. If you collect random credit card numbers and then transact on them, you'll be harshly punished. Actually providing a service on the side of the fraud does not make the fraud disappear.

The proposed fix to make contracts established over inbound calls void is useful as a guide for the public to clearly know their rights. And if a company still chooses to collect a payment over the phone, now that's not only a PCI DSS violation but also a theft because money changed hands from an individual to a company without a valid contract.

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