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npilktoday at 1:11 AM1 replyview on HN

I would say Ed makes three main claims in this post:

1) Companies are spending a ton on capex for future AI compute

2) Current levels of AI revenue are not enough to recoup that capex spend

3) Revenues won’t increase enough in the future to recoup that capex spend

Almost anyone, bubbler or not, would agree with points 1 and 2. But Ed cites dozens of numbers from different sources to repeat and reinforce them. It feels to me like an effort to overwhelm the reader with data to support his overall argument. That’s what I would call a gish gallop.

The third point is a prediction. He cites a lot of facts and numbers here too, but ultimately whether you believe his prediction is going to depend on your assumptions.

The thing is, I really would love to see a detailed analysis of capex spend and amortization. Capex spent on the future is a big unknown. But the big labs have claimed they are profitable on inference. How much capex was invested to create the capacity to serve current models? How much revenue is coming from serving those models? What does the full profitability picture look like? What does that imply for future demand needs?


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ofjcihentoday at 1:24 AM

On your last paragraph the simplest answer as to why we haven’t seen that is because they don’t want to show us because it wouldn’t paint a great picture for them.

Regarding Gish galloping, I don’t think you can Gish Gallup in writing. The point as you said is to rapidly overwhelm an opponent. That’s not possible in writing as the points can be argued one by one at the responders leisure.

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