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andsoitistoday at 2:30 PM6 repliesview on HN

> Human society overwhelmingly rewards lying cheating and stealing.

I’d like to push back on that. Civilization is very much a function of large numbers of people being able to coordinate across time and space, and widespread and systematic lying, cheating, and stealing would undermine that.

I think your cynicism is misplaced.


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voidfunctoday at 2:35 PM

Thats why man invented Gods and religion. Keep the masses believing in the importance of cooperation and being good while you rob them blind.

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skinfaxitoday at 2:32 PM

I think their point was, if you look at who controls the most resources, they are rarely the ones we would consider worthy of honor.

GolfPoppertoday at 2:44 PM

Civilization functions because the vast majority of its inhabitants do not lie, cheat, and steal. But that allows liars, cheats, and thieves who are able to get away with their destructive behaviors to accumulate outsize power and influence.

And we seem to have gotten quite bad at reliably bringing consequences/punishment/justice to the most successful liars, cheats, and thieves.

nyeahtoday at 2:35 PM

He didn't quite say "widespread." He said "rewarded."

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AndrewKemendotoday at 3:36 PM

It's not cynicism it's history

Xirdustoday at 2:47 PM

Widespread and systematic lying, cheating and stealing is how every democratic nation in the world describes their own government.