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cjtoday at 2:38 PM4 repliesview on HN

I've never quite understood negative electric/gas/oil prices.

Are you literally paid for agreeing to receive the energy?


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elibentoday at 2:43 PM

Yes. Counterintuitive, but it make sense when you take all the factors into account (such that completely shutting down and then later restarting turbines may cost a generator more than paying someone to take power off their hands).

robin_realatoday at 2:47 PM

Yep. Last August the total cost to charge my car for the month was -10SEK of about -$1.05 US, as my energy company was trying to put load into its batteries at the times when the grid most needed it.

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vlovich123today at 2:43 PM

Yes, if you’re a battery in the system. Basically discourages generation because there’s too much supply. But this generally doesn’t trickle to consumers afaik.

testdelacc1today at 3:23 PM

Easiest to understand with oil. During Covid the price of oil went negative. So you’d be paid if you bought that oil.

Sounds like a great deal right? But now you’re on the hook for receiving and storing that oil. That costs money, it’s not free. That’s why the price went negative - the seller was trying to offload and there were no takers at $0.