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seizethecheesetoday at 5:18 PM2 repliesview on HN

This is a promising direction! Unfortunately, I think the benchmark result here is essentially meaningless.

I recently discovered this same lesson the hard way. I was trying to get a multi-agent system I was building to improve upon GPQA Diamond scores (system here: http://pellmell.ai). No matter how hard I tried, I could not get any lift. When Fable 5 dropped, it also did not improve upon Opus, and I realized my mistake. The benchmark was saturated!

Now, looking at the result here, I see a similar pattern. Fable is not better than Opus, and the score is ~95%. Notably, this post omits which subagent is being used. Why? An intellectually honest way to tell if this thing really works would be to run that agent and report its score and cost as well.

Going back to my GPQA Diamond lesson, you can see here how a saturated leaderboard behaves https://artificialanalysis.ai/evaluations/gpqa-diamond. Fable gets 92.6% for $0.22 per task while several models score higher for $0.01. I could easily publish a router that “enhances Fable on GPQA Diamond” showing improved score for lower cost, just by implementing a router that picks the model at random!


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adi1today at 5:37 PM

The breakdown with which model, per-task cost, and methodology is in the "Full results and methodology" link in the post, not omitted. Definitely check it out if you haven't.

On the saturation point, we agree that a 95.8% result on a mature benchmark isn't the main proof, which is why we're currently running against harder, less saturated benchmarks like Terminal-Bench, CursorBench, and SlopCodeBench (going to publish results on these hard benchmarks shortly). Apart from current user experiences, that will show the value of our harness.

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seizethecheesetoday at 5:28 PM

The same thing holds for speed. I could build a system that speeds up Fable on GPQA Diamond ~50%, while improving score, by literally randomly selecting between Fable and Gemini 3.7 Flash. (Solve time for Flash is 0.1min and 0.8min for Fable, with Flash having a better score.)

Hell, I could publish better score at 87.5% time reduction by having the router always pick Flash!

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