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nickandbrotoday at 5:27 PM4 repliesview on HN

This is genuinely a competitive model, considering it beats Claude Sonnet 5 on almost all benchmarks and is more than half its price. Seems like Google is back in the game, though not leading the frontier anymore.


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onlyrealcuzzotoday at 5:30 PM

Sonnet 5 is arguably the most cost ineffective model to ever be released, so that's not really impressive.

It can regularly cost more than Fable, take longer, and deliver far far lower quality.

I'm much more interested how this compares to Luna - which on price is terribly - but at least on quality the benchmarks make this look competitive / usable.

If Google continues monthly Flash releases like Sundar said they would, and they continue to have this much of an improvement in cost/quality - then in a few months this could reasonably be very competitive with the best of the best.

It is not there yet, but at least it's super fast, I guess.

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xnxtoday at 6:16 PM

Google is not currently in the lead for maximum model capability, but it is still very competitive (or even best) in the multidimensional capability, cost, and speed frontier.

qeternitytoday at 5:49 PM

> more than half its price

Less than half its price.

More than 50% discount.

9cb14c1ec0today at 5:30 PM

Claude Sonnet 5 is such a garbage model, so not sure what that says about Google's new best model.