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thelastgallontoday at 2:30 PM5 repliesview on HN

Use EVs as energy storage. Millions of EVs form an energy reservoir. 20% of solar is curtailed now and q lot more in future, instead charge EVs. Pay the EV owners because they are creating a storage layer with their capital and power prices go negative hundreds of millions of times every year. No need of home batteries.


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rswailtoday at 2:47 PM

In Australia people do both. We don't have V2G yet, but EVs plugged in at home overnight with L1 charging can get charged by the home battery that was charged up during the day by the PV on the roof.

The solar PV and now storage rollouts in Australia have been one of the best government investments in public infrastructure in my lifetime here.

The more we electrify, the less reliant we are on the crude -> foreign refineries -> imported/distributed fuel risk.

Harvesting solar power is an awesome thing to do both at home and utility level.

PV and wind utility installations are being built with storage co-located, there are companies building synthetic condensers to maintain the grid stability and the job of frequency support is now done mostly by batteries, not gas.

We need to make electricity basically "too cheap to meter" and electrify our primary industries, mining and agriculture.

toasty228today at 2:46 PM

When I looked into it it didn't make sense to use an EV as a solar battery, the chemistry isn't made for high cycle counts compared to regular home/solar batteries.

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ghostly_stoday at 2:33 PM

1. A couple orders of magnitude more people own homes than EVs; 2. EVs already are used as energy storage, but the thing about EVs is people want to use that energy to yknow, drive them.

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Wacaritoday at 2:49 PM

Agreed. V2G is actually one of the best DER strats out there. The EVs are already purchased, the batteries and PCS are already configured for bidirectional flow in most brands. Coordination/visibility problem remains at Dx level, but actually worth the investment.

jmyeettoday at 2:34 PM

The issue here is that EVs tend to be charged when the sun is down. When sun is up you tend to be at work or driving. The surplus power is coming from solar.

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