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ahmetozertoday at 3:09 PM3 repliesview on HN

Thanks for testing, in year 2026, still IPv6 is not fully well utilized homes, corporates especially it is worse at clouds (AWS, GCP) if you not limit north to south, they are not good for east-to-west compared to telco providers. For example, GCP uses IP forwarding for IPv6 real IP address is not allocated at machine. At some of the components which is EKS is not support every case at IPv6.

So IPv8 can be available around year 2300 I guess :) (i have not inspected v8 RFC yet)


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clhodapptoday at 3:35 PM

IPv8 is just a reactionary response to IPv6 not being "IPv4 with larger addresses" like people who know IPv4 well would prefer.

There would be no reason to adopt it if IPv6 were adopted.

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ButlerianJihadtoday at 6:28 PM

If IPv6 were wholeheartedly "adopted" then I and most consumers would not require "dual-stack" at home. Dual-stack is a terrible curse and a hack. IPv4 NAT is likewise a curse and a hack. We are left with these legacy curses only because the world can't seem to adopt IPv6. You don't need to abolish IPv4 to do it, you just need to get AAAA records and support the protocol! If you run a server or a public network, and you're not reachable by IPv6 in 2026, you're part of the problem.

I would not need "a home LAN" at home; I would not need "Private IP address space"; I would not need NATing router technology; my router software and configuration would be far, far simpler if my devices were able to single-stack. I believe the source of a lot of connectivity errors and difficult Heisenbugs involve dual-stack problems.

My devices don't need lateral connectivity on the LAN except for the printer. I attempted shutting off IPv4 on the printer and it dropped off entirely. I can't understand that. It doesn't need to reach the outside world for any reason. My Chromebook and Android don't speak to each other, except for Quick Share, which shouldn't require IPv4 addressing.

Has anyone devised a protocol or scheme by which an IPv6-only device can seamlessly access IPv4-only devices through their ISP and not local support? In other words, opportunistically intercept connection attempts and interpose a tunnel? It seems like this would be a final component to just killing off IPv4, en masse, in people's homes.

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simonciontoday at 6:24 PM

> ...in year 2026, still IPv6 is not fully well utilized...

Eh. It took quite a long time, but even HN has a v6 address these days:

  $ dig +short news.ycombinator.com ANY
  2606:7100:1:67::26
  209.216.230.207