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xyzelementtoday at 8:59 PM7 repliesview on HN

Former employee (though not part of that famous round of layoff)

The noise around Zoom firing was ridiculous. We were a largely remote company with most people having never been to the office (I don't think I had, at that moment) so how exactly do you lay off people except remotely? VG didn't do a great job there but the idea of doing it remotely being evil or whatever was ridiculous - should the people be flown in to NY just to get fired?

Overall I find VG a flawed but reasonable dude. He definitely put his ass on the line for the business, was generous with equity - and was a pretty engaged leader. I don't think much about my time at Better but it was fine.


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healsdatatoday at 9:20 PM

There's a huge range of options between a terse Zoom call with 900 people on it and flying everyone to NY. And if you're someone who previously said "You are TOO DAMN SLOW. You are a bunch of DUMB DOLPHINS… SO STOP IT. STOP IT. STOP IT RIGHT NOW. YOU ARE EMBARRASSING ME" to your employees, you may want to lean towards the more humane options if you don't want to get dragged.

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e40today at 9:49 PM

> so how exactly do you lay off people except remotely?

You have their managers do it. Privately. 500 people at once is just lazy and hateful.

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happytoexplaintoday at 9:08 PM

>put his ass on the line

Please don't do this. There are many people who put their ass on the line. He is not one of them. He risked almost nothing from a human perspective.

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jroseattletoday at 9:39 PM

> VG didn't do a great job there but the idea of doing it remotely being evil or whatever was ridiculous

I don't think the issue was the communications medium (Zoom.)

> I don't think much about my time at Better but it was fine.

That's the biggest tell about leadership at any company.

throwaway27448today at 9:07 PM

> He definitely put his ass on the line for the business

Oh did he risk being homeless? Let's not be hyperbolic here—all he risked was minor embarrassment

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lbritotoday at 9:31 PM

Oh, will some one think of the poor CEOs for a change! He puts his ass on the line!

Pathetic