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louthyyesterday at 9:41 PM1 replyview on HN

> And what they have got instead is gross migration running at 1 million per year.

LEGAL migration of 1 million per year. For one year only during Boris Johnson's term. Mostly it's in the 100,000s.

Most migration is legal. People crossing the channel in boats is minuscule in comparison (tens of thousands). And, whilst people crossing the channel in small boats is certainly a problem (for their lives, if nothing else), it is not something that should be taking up so much political air. It's a side issue in the big scheme of things.

Governments should certainly have more strategic plans for dealing with the legal migrants, like infrastructure building, and if they're unable to deliver the infrastructure, limit the legal migration. But the rest of it is often driven by political opportunists and bigots.


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mytailorisrichyesterday at 9:54 PM

Yes most immigration is legal, so a policy choice. That's exactly why the Conservatives lost the last general election as voters shunned them and voted Reform UK. Why? Because for years they say they wanted lower immigration but actually did the opposite.

Arguably even illegal immigration is a policy choice at this point considering the clear reluctance of the government to do much about it. So this has a big symbolic and political impact.

This public growing skepticism about immigration while successive governments have made the choice to support it is fuelling the Reform vote.

This isn't unique to the UK, we see the same pretty much across Europe.

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