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jauntywundrkindtoday at 2:22 AM2 repliesview on HN

> I'm happy to report that 82 people spoke up on the TLS mailing list in unambiguous opposition to this spec during the voting period

How many of them spoke before on this mailing list, in any capacity what so ever? I suspect this is 99% people who showed up because you organized a brigadging, because you incited people and told them to show up and be completely outraged.

There's a >0% chance that DJB could be correct that there is some risk to this spec (which notably is not seeking recommendation status! So WTF?) The people approving and wanting this aren't fools, aren't lackies, aren't some great foe. There's little real opposition? Making up ghosts and enemies lurking in every corner, brigading people to show up in IETF meetings, who have never participated before, just to spread heat and anger you've programmed them for, is ignoble & indecent.

All too recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48760490 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48811887


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cornstalkstoday at 3:13 AM

> which notably is not seeking recommendation status!

I don’t have a dog in this fight, but some extremely important RFCs are only on the “informational” track. RFCs 1945 (HTTP 1.0), 4627 (JSON), 2818 (HTTPS), etc.

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cassonmarstoday at 3:34 AM

because the NSA has never surreptitiously pushed bad standards they used to exploit before

/s

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