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infectotoday at 2:27 PM3 repliesview on HN

Does anyone else get pretty tired with 404s style of writing? I hate to make this comparison but it feels like a Fox News for the left.

I always struggle with their articles because it feels like they built it for rage bait on a topic and leave the other interesting topics out of it. It is an absolute shame for books to be destroyed but what does it really mean to be rare here? I know they kind of tried to differentiate but it sounds like this could be John Doe’s self help book that never sold well. If you ever are connected to a library you will start to realize how many books simply get thrown out or sold for nothing because nobody wants them.

To me the problem is partly the copyright law. I think it’s. Hard problem but I always lean more towards books having short copyright shelf lives and making it legal for digital copies to be shared after which I think would eliminate I good part of this problem. Not to mention 99% of the books published are probably garbage but that is highly subjective.

So it is bit of a meta rant but I think there a couple holes to go down that could be extremely interesting but they always write these informationally light articles. Like scrolling through a NYT visualization for just some shipping datapoints. Don’t really dig deep on anything and then end with a trust me bro these are rare books that Amazon is destroying for AI when I cannot be that upset with the amazons of the world. There are a lot of reasons for a business to digitize books, most books are worthless and it makes sense to cut the bindings for scanning. I would rather talk about how could you fix copyright to make this less an issue but is it even an issue with how many books get thrown out?


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FLeXMurphytoday at 2:52 PM

> I always struggle with their articles because it feels like they built it for rage bait on a topic and leave the other interesting topics out of it.

I was going to say a very similar thing, and this is something I strongly disagree with when it comes to HN's moderation, and it goes like this:

The product is the outrage.

And HN should know better and mods should actively discourage, warn and prevent accounts (who karma farm, among other things) from even being able to post rage-bait articles. These aren't "hacker curiosities", they're just insipid bullshit. We wasted time and learned nothing.

awakeasleeptoday at 3:01 PM

I agree with you. And it sucks, because 404 writes about interesting topics! But they're so negatively polarized it often obscures what's actually interesting.

forestrywattoday at 2:34 PM

Not really. It's not to my taste, but I've found their journalism to generally be lefty but focused on important events.

Like Amazon consuming and presumably destroying rare books should be enraging to everyone, regardless of political persuasion.

The difference is huge between 404 and Fox. Fox is out here trying to tell people there's a trans agenda, and that Biden was a lunatic leftist. They are just making up stories and publishing them because they know their audience engages. 404 definitely make editorial choices about which stories to pursue but I've largely found them to be grounded in real depictions of stuff that is happening.

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