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lapcatlast Monday at 4:28 PM1 replyview on HN

> I'd bet on the Democratic leadership to come around well before the Republicans.

Jeffries was already around. He supported single payer but now rejects it, so he's moving backward.

> Without a 60-strong majority in the Senate, which must necessarily include some Republicans, it'll never happen.

Democrats had 60 during Obama's first term. They'll always find a rotating villain to oppose it, Joe Lieberman, Joe mansion, etc. Anyway, the filibuster can be eliminated. In 2013 Democrats eliminated the filibuster for most nominations, and in 2017 Republicans eliminated the filibuster for Supreme Court nominations.


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triceratopslast Monday at 4:30 PM

> Democrats had 60 during Obama's first term. They'll always find a rotating villain to oppose it, Joe Lieberman, Joe mansion, etc.

So what do you propose? Is there a 3rd party that has a reasonable chance of doing it?

Maybe if you flip a few Republicans (to supporting UHC) it might go easier. It'll give their leadership something to think about at least.

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