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akerstentoday at 5:33 AM7 repliesview on HN

I'm simultaneously hearing that the internet is more addicting than cigarettes to the point where multiple states are finding success levying gigantic fines on companies for having too good of a product, and also that the internet is boring and drab. Are we on two different internets? Is the author simply immune from the hypnosis of social media?

Anyway, the real internet is and always has been/will be smaller forums brought together by a common interest. Think back to the MMORPG private server communities of the 00's/10's. Kind of hacker news fits into that bucket today but even still a lot of the brainrotted brigading and average takes from reddit I'm seeing more often here (not calling out this post in particular; referring to the comment sections mostly).


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CGamesPlaytoday at 5:55 AM

> Are we on two different internets? Is the author simply immune from the hypnosis of social media?

Yes; and either yes or the author is separating walled social network gardens from "the internet". The "real internet", as you say, is not the addictive algorithmic feeds.

I believe that the "real internet" you're talking about is larger than it's ever been, but the signal-to-noise ratio of the whole internet has been killed by even larger amounts of noise. So it's difficult to find these smaller forums and get involved with them.

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Terr_today at 5:46 AM

> more addicting than cigarettes [...] also boring and drab

That's not actually a contradiction.

With addictions, it's extremely common for someone to do $THING not because of any (remotely durable) sense of happiness, but simply "to feel normal", as not-doing it feels empty or wrong or painful or intrusive.

If people are feeling hopelessly stuck repeating behaviors they don't actually enjoy, that's more like evidence for addiction rather than against it.

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ColdStreamtoday at 5:36 AM

Cigarettes is a good analogy. It is both addictive but broadly doesn't really help out the individual consuming them.

raincoletoday at 6:03 AM

> I'm simultaneously hearing that the internet is more addicting than cigarettes to the point where multiple states are finding success levying gigantic fines on companies for having too good of a product, and also that the internet is boring and drab

They are not mutually exclusive. Actually, the opposite is true: most addicts don't enjoy what they are addicted to anymore. They just have to consume it.

rockskontoday at 5:36 AM

"Too good of a product" is an odd way to put it when you could apply the same logic to slot machines.

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linkjuice4alltoday at 5:58 AM

There are two internets: the one on your phone (ruined by outrage and mobile slop) and the one on your computer (ruined by marketing slop). They’re both dangerous and disappointing for different reasons - but mostly because independent voices got drowned out.

smokeltoday at 5:56 AM

A ⊆ X ∧ p ∈ X ⇏ p ∈ A

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