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busterarmtoday at 7:26 PM5 repliesview on HN

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The US withdrew its signature all the way back in 2002, the same year the ICC came into being.

It's only "their job" where they have jurisdiction.

This is like Ofcom trying to require overseas companies/providers to enforce the Online Safety Act.

The ICC doesn't even automatically have jurisdiction of signatory nations either -- it's only when that nation fails to actively pursue prosecutions in their own courts.


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muvlontoday at 7:57 PM

ICC and ICJ have different roles. The ICJ's subjects are countries whereas the ICC deals with individuals.

In this case, the ICC has jurisdiction because the alleged crimes were committed in the territory of a signatory (Palestine) and because Palestine indeed found itself unable to prosecute them.

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Kim_Bruningtoday at 7:37 PM

ICC has jurisdiction in the signatory countries themselves.

bigcat12345678today at 7:32 PM

Since when US requires "jurisdiction" for it's actions?

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boomskatstoday at 7:51 PM

> The US withdrew its signature all the way back in 2002.

Yeah, I guess international law was rather incompatible with their ambitions at the time. Fair play to them though, they certainly made the most of it.

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atoavtoday at 7:40 PM

Well many of the countries where the war crimes happened are signatories to the ICC, so that isn't gonna be the problem you think it is.

Also: the US acting as a rouge state is not a power move it is a sign of moral decay, corruption and a critical failure to uphold the principles laid out in its own (wonderfully written!) Declaration of Independence.

It is just sad to see how hollowed out these great ideals have become.

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