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wing-_-nutstoday at 5:25 PM4 repliesview on HN

>Wayland is not a "display server", it's a display protocol.

I, as an end user, do NOT care.

>A lot of the "existing functionality" that it broke has nothing to do with displays, it's stuff that got crammed into Xorg at some point whether it made sense or not.

I also don't care about ivory tower ideals of what is within the dominion of 'display' and what is not. The fact of the matter is their changes broke a ton of functionality, and instead of even trying to provide feature parity, they basically dumped all that responsibility onto the WM/DE devs.

I have no idea why the community didn't take one look at their proposal and flatly ignore them.


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setopttoday at 6:04 PM

> instead of even trying to provide feature parity, they basically dumped all that responsibility onto the WM/DE devs.

In other words, the Wayland people should perhaps have defined official protocol extensions early on to cover most of what X did, thus preventing all the initial interop issues when Gnome and KDE and Sway tried to reinvent them independently.

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Anonynekotoday at 6:15 PM

The community doesn't really have a say because Xorg is effectively on life support and the Xorg devs are now working on Wayland. There aren't many people in this world who could keep Xorg going. Some distros are sticking to Xorg, but it will become more and more difficult in the coming years.

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cscheptoday at 6:03 PM

If nothing else this is a very strong commentary on just how challenging landing positive changes in Xorg felt to the community.

skydhashtoday at 5:43 PM

This pretty much. Xorg got almost everything that I care about to have a functionning GUI. You only startx and the only thing you may need are utils programs like a wm, a compositor, a bar… now you have conflicting implementation from gnome, kde, wlroots,… each with its own set of features.

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