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ben_wtoday at 12:06 PM1 replyview on HN

> Which, with 20/20 hindsight, we now know was wild paranoia. The Russians weren't even geared up to properly invade Ukraine, they were as shocked as the rest of us when the Ukrainians decided a land war in Asia was a better idea than surrender. They spent something like 2 years back in 2022-2024 retooling for a real war. They weren't preparing to take Poland, they were trying to preserve a sphere of influence in Ukraine.

Them being idiots and thinking they could take Ukraine does not preclude that they were also idiots who thought they could take Poland.

> we embarked on this poorly advised policy of war.

We, the people who are supplying Ukraine with support, and I want to emphasise this, have not embarked on this poorly advised policy of war. We are not at war, our soldiers are not fighting. We are selling (and giving) weapons to someone who wants to defend themselves, which is a standard thing for weapon-exporting nations to do.

Russia has embarked on this poorly advised policy of war.

> It isn't normal for a major to break international law and it ends up in a million-casualty war where we sponsor bombing runs on their capital.

Russia did bombing runs on the Ukrainian capital before Ukraine was able to respond.

Can you give Ukrainians a reason why they should not develop nuclear weapons? The Polish? The Lithuanians?

> We're just pushing the global centre of power towards Asia.

Only if "we" is "the Russian government".

The things which the rest of NATO is doing that can be described as "pushing the global centre of power towards Asia" are 75% Trump being a chaos monkey undermining both the USA itself and all the USA's alliances, and 25% the EU member-states bike-shedding union-wide economic-industrial policy.


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pjc50today at 12:26 PM

> The Polish? The Lithuanians?

I for one welcome the re-establishment of a nuclear armed Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Just as long as we don't get the Hapsburgs back again.

(nb to audience and mods: this is a joke, which probably doesn't belong at the bottom of a serious thread about the Ukraine war and definitely not on a discussion of Japanese operating systems, yet here we are)

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