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hn_throwaway_99yesterday at 9:59 PM4 repliesview on HN

I read the article but didn't watch the videos yet, but I'm curious as to what would be needed to make this a 3D map. That is, I'm assuming this 2D map records the position of all of these objects in the sky, but not the distance from Earth. But I thought that calculating the distance of objects is relatively straightforward, e.g. you hear all the time "Galaxy X is 2 billion lightyears away" or whatever. Would it just be really computationally expensive to calculate the distance to all of the 4 billion objects identified in the map?


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epistasisyesterday at 10:47 PM

They do this mostly with spectroscopy, breaking out the light by frequency. The longer the light has been travelling, the more frequency shifts into redder frequencies, because the universe is continually expanding.

But those distances are all built on top of the cosmic distance ladder (Terence Tao explaining on 3blue1brown)

https://youtu.be/YdOXS_9_P4U?is=jbkFbwWKgbn3yOjq

Maps like DESI add the 3d distances.

https://www.desi.lbl.gov/education-outreach/interactive-visu...

fluoridationyesterday at 10:55 PM

Celestia might be what you're looking for.

soulofmischiefyesterday at 10:46 PM

There are a lot of unknowns and processes that must be undone, which often require an unknown basis. Red shift, moving bodies, gravitational lensing and other processes distort light along its journey. Sometimes we don't know the exact magnitude of a star, etc. Spectroscopy helps a lot but is limited by the fidelity of our datasets.

LeBityesterday at 10:04 PM

I think it is 2D because the universe is not that thick?

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