alt Hacker NewsLocal models would be even better if they did not ship with all the refusal shenanigans built-in. You can safely bet organized crime has access to the best models without these hoops, which makes the case that the average user (=non-criminal) should have access too. As I understood from an ex-Anthropic employee, some orgs got access to Mythos based on their high enough spending level, not on other grounds.
Either we are in command over the software, or the corp is in command over us via the software. I can on a theoretical level understand the concerns, but either we ban all LLMs or we have a level playing field for everybody. Let's not forget: defense and offense are different sides of the same coin in software. I guess this wouldn't apply to bio weapons, but I am not in the know about that.
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Completely coincidentally, we're just about to launch a service that does exactly this (API access to uncensored open models)! We have a waitlist at the moment but will be live very soon!
I’d expect these shenanigans to get much worse over time for the average Joe.
Imagine a world where any random person can run a super-capable model on their own hardware with no limitations and no one to pull the plug.
Information has always been power and those who already have power won't just allow everyone else having the same tools as them
Hugging face is filled with uncensored versions of your favorite local models, so in a way they are shipped without the refusal stuff, via the magic of fine tuning or however they get this stuff out of models.
heretics and manual iterations get you very far to the point where i have ethical questions about whether this should be possible
Ehh, it’s at least given as the excuse for gain-of-function bioweapon research
There are versions of Qwen3.8-27B that are unrestricted and available from hugging face.
"It will comply with harmful, unethical, offensive, or illegal requests that the original Qwen3.8-27B would refuse. It has no meaningful built-in guardrails."