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hbarkatoday at 8:27 PM3 repliesview on HN

Anthropic’s issue is churn because of the peak verbosity vomit coming out of Opus 5/Mythos/Fable. What the hell did they train it on. The sane model is still Opus 4.6.


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ericoltoday at 10:56 PM

There's actually a tool called vomit [1] of all names to fix exactly what what is being discussed here.

[1] https://github.com/zachahn/vomit

paulddrapertoday at 10:53 PM

https://x.com/wolframs91/status/2090159644849353058

What if:

- Opus 4.6 was the last Opus generation that got a lot of use by Anthropic's own employees

- After that they primarily used Mythos internally

- 4.7, 4.8 and 5 were RLAIFd by Mythos "teachers"

- Hence why 4.6 is the last Opus gen who doesn't report back like a robot wanting to cover every potential hole another AI system would've spotted and criticized

- Hence why coding style in Opus 5 also gets criticized, not only behavior in CC

dude250711today at 8:42 PM

Perhaps there is a sophisticated subtle poisoning attack that makes models behave like that?