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vv_today at 10:02 AM1 replyview on HN

> I'm asking these devices to work like normal computers

> Yes I expect do be able to do all of those things if I want to

For the components I listed, and based on my understanding of "normal computers" as desktops and laptops, you cannot do all of these things today.

> it's my computer

It's their firmware. They don't magically give up their intellectual property rights when you purchase a piece of hardware from them.

What would be reasonable is providing access to datasheets, schematics, and manuals, where permitted by local laws, so that users can tinker with and develop for the hardware themselves. However, that shouldn't come with the expectation that the hardware's chain of trust remains intact or that all features will continue to function as they do with the OEM software.


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realusernametoday at 10:16 AM

I never stated that I own the intellectual property but I'm stating that I own the device and such, should be able to do any modification I see fit to the device, regardless if the manufacturer thinks it's a good idea or not.

And yes, I also support adding laws to force manufacturers to respect my rights.

> However, that shouldn't come with the expectation that the hardware's chain of trust remains intact or that all features will continue to function as they do with the OEM software.

I'm okay with that if the manufacturer doesn't remove features in bad faith (which they almost always do as there's very few legit uses on their side).

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