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m0llusktoday at 1:46 PM0 repliesview on HN

Alternatively these mechanisms push toward subcultures. Several tight and successful groups come to mind:

Environmentalists may be weird, but they bring attention to real problems for society generally and have had significant success despite being targeted for murder by corporate criminals globally. Cannabis enthusiasts may be social jokes, but even during a drug war managed to carry on and find ways of not just existing but bonding and and sharing.

This kind of situation keeps coming up and it seems like the weirdness is a side issue relative to the commitment to some specific sharable experience.